Balthz for predictions? - Guild Wars Forums

Silvia Shadowback · Jan 11, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I just read in another thread that you could make predictions to win balthz faction? How does this work? You place a bet on best guild and 1v1er, and where do you make these predictions? Could someone give me the link to a thread explaining this because im sure it must exist even though I couldn't find it.

DarkFlame · Jan 11, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56

XTH
Wiki link explaining XTH

No you don't win Balth faction. You win reward points, which you can use with Tolkano. And while Tolkano does exchange reward points for an item that can give Balth faction, it isn't worth the high cost of points.

warrior running · Jan 11, 2009, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Ya with rps u can get pvp armour and zkeys

Conal · Jan 11, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26

how about advice on how/who without having to study past results?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=14

because this sounds like it requires a lot of work to make anything
like a realistic prediction....I'm not looking for something for nothing
but how are you supposed to know who is likely to win with the number
of possibilities....

Or is it like playing the lottery for someone doing it casually?

DarkFlame · Jan 11, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Conal

without having to study past results?

You could always look for the prediction threads in here and here, to see what others are doing(check out the ones for Dec). And there's always this that zwei2stein made(it's safe to download/use).

But if you're not willing to make a casual effort to look for those threads, watch them in Obs mode or even look at the past results, then its nothing but wild uneducated guessing. Or at least until you've gone enough rounds that you begin to recognize names.

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because this sounds like it requires a lot of work to make anything
like a realistic prediction

Not really. A ton of players making predictions aren't into PvP at all, no clue who those players are or any of the builds/gimmicks/behaviors of anybody/anything in the tournaments. And they get by just fine, with minimal effort.

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Or is it like playing the lottery for someone doing it casually?

Doesn't cost you anything, so might as well just do it.

Conal · Jan 11, 2009, 03:58 PM // 15:58

thanks!

and thanks for answering what might be stupid questions ...

*Darcy* · Jan 11, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Never a stupid question.

I don't PvP at all.

I do the GvG predictions based on rankings on the guildwars.com site. I take the top ten who have qualified by the Friday before the tournaments and stick them into my prediction list.

For the 1v1 (Hero Battles), it's even worse as they constantly change their names. I normally look at the thread in our Gladiator's Arena to see if anyone has made any guesses. But basically, this one is more like throwing darts at a list.

You get 5pts (1 key) just for entering and can usually end up with more. Most common cause of failure is not posting your picks in time. Keep track of which weekend is scheduled and remember that GvG begins Saturday and 1v1 on Sunday.

If you made your picks early, you can always revise them if you see new qualifiers on the rankings lists.

Conal · Jan 11, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01

What do I do with the keys?

Do they have a value of their own?

Sell them?

Or open a chest myself and sell what I get?

Tommy's · Jan 11, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Hi

Sorry about posting this, but couldnt find a thread about it

So here is my question, how does predicting rly work. Cause I heard I should vote on Rebel Rising etc, and there are some names on guildwars.com aswell, but when I want to make my preditions those names arent there

So could someone please tell my how this works, who are good guesses to vote on, or give me a link of an excisting thread?

Thnx in advance!

Evil Eye · Jan 11, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

They don't qualify until towards the end of the month, then add them.

IXI Nine IXI · Jan 11, 2009, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Every Month in the GvG section of guru someone posts a mAT prediction thread. You can get a lot of ideas from that. So check there around the 20th of each month. Predictions have to be made by the 25th of most months if I'm not mistaken.

Dante the Warlord · Jan 12, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I would suggest using the XTH program on the community works forum, I got my highest ever amount of zkeys using it. That and check the predictions themselves at the threads provided. you should generally be aiming for GvG because 1v1 is a free for all and VERY hard to predict.

As for the value of the keys, if you have less then 500k - sell more then 500k - keep. Or if you are lazy keep them. Absolutely do not use them unless you are going for the title (and you need few a bit to even get the first rank of zaishen)

Ghengis Kwell · Jan 12, 2009, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Just take a guess

just because someone did well last month does not mean they will do well this month , I randomly pick names and am always pleasantly surprised when I get reward points , it costs you nothing and you end up with Zkeys worth 5K each , so you can't really lose out

Ariena Najea · Jan 12, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45

I've only been doing this for a couple months, and I could be wrong, but I believe that the site automatically lists the guilds in the order of the current ranks. I just dragged #1 to #1 and so on, and got 80 point last month, worth 16 z-keys. Requires far less work than scanning a thread, however, you are probably better off taking the time if you really care about getting those keys.

Conal · Jan 12, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

As for the value of the keys, if you have less then 500k - sell more then 500k - keep. Or if you are lazy keep them. Absolutely do not use them unless you are going for the title (and you need few a bit to even get the first rank of zaishen)

I guess selling them standing right by the chest is probably a
good idea?

5P ( same as 5K right ? ) is pretty much a set rate?

and I gather it's a one a month thing, so I have a while before it
hits.... right?

DarkFlame · Jan 12, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Conal

I guess selling them standing right by the chest is probably a good idea?

Chest is in an explorable, so no. Sell it in Temple of Balth(first outpost in the Battle Isles).

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5P ( same as 5K right ? ) is pretty much a set rate?

P as in platinum? Yes, its the same as 5k. And yes that is around the current sell price to other players.

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and I gather it's a one a month thing, so I have a while before it
hits.... right?

Yup.

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Or open a chest myself and sell what I get?

Honestly, that's not very profitable. Few items out of the chest will net you more then 5k and you'd have to be very lucky to get them.

DarkFlame · Jan 12, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Crucist Ovv

but when I want to make my preditions those names arent there

They qualified late, so their names weren't there when you made your predictions. Check and revised them the day before predictions are closed.

Jan 11, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#7
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Never a stupid question. I don't PvP at all. I do the GvG predictions based on rankings on the guildwars.com site. I take the top ten who have qualified by the Friday before the tournaments and stick them into my prediction list. For the 1v1 (Hero Battles), it's even worse as they constantly change their names. I normally look at the thread in our Gladiator's Arena to see if anyone has made any guesses. But basically, this one is more like throwing darts at a list. You get 5pts (1 key) just for entering and can usually end up with more. Most common cause of failure is not posting your picks in time. Keep track of which weekend is scheduled and remember that GvG begins Saturday and 1v1 on Sunday. If you made your picks early, you can always revise them if you see new qualifiers on the rankings lists. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Jan 11, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#9
Tommy's Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: [Bone] Profession: Mo/	New to predictions Hi Sorry about posting this, but couldnt find a thread about it So here is my question, how does predicting rly work. Cause I heard I should vote on Rebel Rising etc, and there are some names on guildwars.com aswell, but when I want to make my preditions those names arent there So could someone please tell my how this works, who are good guesses to vote on, or give me a link of an excisting thread? Thnx in advance!

Jan 11, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21	#1
Silvia Shadowback Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Sleeping at Worlds [End] Profession: N/Mo	Balthz for predictions? I just read in another thread that you could make predictions to win balthz faction? How does this work? You place a bet on best guild and 1v1er, and where do you make these predictions? Could someone give me the link to a thread explaining this because im sure it must exist even though I couldn't find it.

Jan 11, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56	#2
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	XTH Wiki link explaining XTH No you don't win Balth faction. You win reward points, which you can use with Tolkano. And while Tolkano does exchange reward points for an item that can give Balth faction, it isn't worth the high cost of points.

Jan 11, 2009, 04:10 AM // 04:10	#3
warrior running Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2008 Guild: The Cape Is A Lie[Trim] Profession: W/E	Ya with rps u can get pvp armour and zkeys

Jan 11, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26	#4
Conal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: St Patricks Reavers Profession: W/	how about advice on how/who without having to study past results? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=14 because this sounds like it requires a lot of work to make anything like a realistic prediction....I'm not looking for something for nothing but how are you supposed to know who is likely to win with the number of possibilities.... Or is it like playing the lottery for someone doing it casually?

Jan 11, 2009, 03:58 PM // 15:58	#6
Conal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: St Patricks Reavers Profession: W/	thanks! and thanks for answering what might be stupid questions ...

Jan 11, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01	#8
Conal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: St Patricks Reavers Profession: W/	What do I do with the keys? Do they have a value of their own? Sell them? Or open a chest myself and sell what I get?

Jan 11, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#10
Evil Eye Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: P/Me	They don't qualify until towards the end of the month, then add them.

Jan 11, 2009, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#11
IXI Nine IXI Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2008 Guild: Spraypaint Assassins [TaG] Profession: W/Me	Every Month in the GvG section of guru someone posts a mAT prediction thread. You can get a lot of ideas from that. So check there around the 20th of each month. Predictions have to be made by the 25th of most months if I'm not mistaken.

Jan 12, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21	#12
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	I would suggest using the XTH program on the community works forum, I got my highest ever amount of zkeys using it. That and check the predictions themselves at the threads provided. you should generally be aiming for GvG because 1v1 is a free for all and VERY hard to predict. As for the value of the keys, if you have less then 500k - sell more then 500k - keep. Or if you are lazy keep them. Absolutely do not use them unless you are going for the title (and you need few a bit to even get the first rank of zaishen)

Jan 12, 2009, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#13
Ghengis Kwell Baby Maker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Guild: Sent Fromhell Profession: D/W	Just take a guess just because someone did well last month does not mean they will do well this month , I randomly pick names and am always pleasantly surprised when I get reward points , it costs you nothing and you end up with Zkeys worth 5K each , so you can't really lose out

Jan 12, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#14
Ariena Najea Silence and Motion Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buffalo NY Guild: New Horizon [NH]	I've only been doing this for a couple months, and I could be wrong, but I believe that the site automatically lists the guilds in the order of the current ranks. I just dragged #1 to #1 and so on, and got 80 point last month, worth 16 z-keys. Requires far less work than scanning a thread, however, you are probably better off taking the time if you really care about getting those keys.